I read something the other day about this subject, so I thought I’d just do a brief ‘opinion post’.
This is just going to be a quick post about being “slain in the spirit” and how it isn’t from God the Holy Spirit.
I will take a quick look at what this means, and will include a post by someone else who goes into detail with scripture to back up why this is unbiblical. I will also link to a previous post of mine with some youtube clips.
First of all, I need to say that I was involved in a ‘home church’ type of group where weird manifestations happened, and I was nearly ‘slain’ twice, so I am not just speaking from a place of ignorance. I am speaking through personal experience. But don’t take my word for it, read on and read the post and look into the Bible yourself. Ask the Lord to reveal HIS truth to you, not man’s. Look into the history of where this movement came from yourself and hopefully the Lord will reveal to you why this is the counterfeit work of the Enemy.
First of all, a few definitions. The first quote is from a comment on the post I will link to down the bottom. It absolutely hits the nail on the head!
“Slain in the Spirit = murdered in the spirit…. who wants to die in the Spirit? We are to LIVE by the Spirit not DIE.
Drunk in the Spirit? We are not supposed to get drunk why would the true Spirit teach us something CONTRARY to the New Testament?”
The person has made an excellent point, so I thought I’d look into it some more.
The definition of “slain” –
> “Webster’s 1828 Dictionary
Slain. SLAIN, participle passive of slay; so written for slayen. Killed.”
> “to kill violently, wantonly, or in great numbers”
I thought I’d also look up the word ‘drunk’ as well. Interesting.
> “dominated by an intense feeling”
“(For we walk by faith, not by sight:)” 2 Corinthians 5:7
“For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith: as it is written, The just shall live by faith.” Romans 1:17
We are not to have a faith based on emotions or feelings, but faith.
> The first case of intoxication on record is that of Noah (Genesis 9:21). The sin of drunkenness is frequently and strongly condemned (Romans 13:13; 1 Corinthians 6:9, 10; Ephesians 5:18; 1 Thessalonians 5:7, 8). The sin of drinking to excess seems to have been not uncommon among the Israelites.
> ” Intoxicated; inebriated; overwhelmed or overpowered by spirituous liquor; stupefied or inflamed by the action of spirit on the stomach and brain. It is brutish to be drunk”
(I guess they call liquor ‘spirits’ for a reason.)
So, to be slain in the spirit is to be killed in the spirit. Did you get that? To be slain in the spirit is to be KILLED in the spirit! Read it again and really let it sink in.
What does the Bible say that God does to our spirits?
“For as the Father raiseth up the dead, and quickeneth [them]; even so the Son quickeneth whom he will.” John 5:12
“(As it is written, I have made thee a father of many nations,) before him whom he believed, even God, who quickeneth the dead, and calleth those things which be not as though they were.” Romans 4:17
God does not kill our spirits, He quickens them, or makes them alive.
> Quickeneth/quickens – “Primarily, to make alive; to vivify; to revive or resuscitate, as from death or an inanimate state.”
If this doesn’t make you sit up and take notice, then I truly don’t know what will.
I implore you, if you have had this happen, or if you do this to others, you need to repent. You need to confess this as sin and ask the Lord’s forgiveness and deliverance. (And no, I don’t mean deliverance as a type of exorcism, I’m talking true deliverance from Jesus.) This is not a small thing, this is a huge thing.
Also, if you do this to others, you will have to answer for every single person you have done this to. This is giving credit to the Holy Spirit for something that the Enemy is doing. Please repent.
Another thing..“But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, Meekness, temperance*: against such there is no law.” Galatians 5:22,23
*Temperance means ‘self control’. (More definitions below.)
If one of the fruits of the spirit is self control, why would God’s ‘spirit’ cause people to act as if drunk or high on drugs, laugh uncontrollably, writhe around without any control, shake and convulse uncontrollably, or make weird animal sounds uncontrollably etc etc?
Why would God allow one of His children to lose complete control of themselves while being “slain in the spirit” when one of the fruits of the Holy Spirit indwelling the Christian is self control??
It flies in the face of and goes in complete contradiction to His word!
“Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles* of the devil.” Ephesians 6:11
*Wiles – ” A trick or stratagem practiced for ensnaring or deception; a sly, insidious artifice.
The Enemy is out to trick as many people as he can to get them away from the truth. Don’t be one of them.
WILE, verb transitive To deceive; to beguile.”
Temperance – again, ‘self control’.
“1. Moderation; particularly, habitual moderation in regard to the indulgence of the natural appetites and passions; restrained or moderate indulgence; as temperance in eating and drinking; temperance in the indulgence of joy or mirth. temperance in eating and drinking is opposed to gluttony and drunkenness, and in other indulgences, to excess.
2. Patience; calmness; sedateness; moderation of passion.”
Here is a post that explains it so much better than I. I urge you to read it and ask the Lord to open your eyes and heart to the truth.
Mythbuster: ‘Slain in the spirit’. *
Click HERE to read a previous post of mine, and watch the youtube clips that go into some more detail.
*Please note, I’m not endorsing the author of the first linked post, nor anything else he writes, I’m only endorsing the post itself because it is truth.
“For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.” Hebrews 4:12
“Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine.
For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;
And they shall turn away [their] ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.” 2 Timothy 4:2-4
Those who preach are to preach the true word of God to: reprove, rebuke and exhort, not to tell people what they want to hear and water down God’s word in order to keep ‘bums on seats’ and make people feel good. Nobody comes to the knowledge of repentance when they are made to feel that their sins are ok and acceptable to God because He “loves” them.
“What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet.” Romans 7:7
Those who do that will be answerable to God as to why they did this.
“3 And in process of time it came to pass, that Cain brought of the fruit of the ground an offering unto the LORD.
4 And Abel, he also brought of the firstlings of his flock and of the fat thereof. And the LORD had respect unto Abel and to his offering: 5 But unto Cain and to his offering he had not respect. And Cain was very wroth, and his countenance fell.
6 And the LORD said unto Cain, Why art thou wroth? and why is thy countenance fallen?
7 If thou doest well, shalt thou not be accepted? and if thou doest not well, sin lieth at the door. And unto thee shall be his desire, and thou shalt rule over him.” Genesis 4:3-7
In my understanding these verses show the consequences of Cain coming to God in his own way, in his own wisdom.
He has offered God what he wants, not what God specified.
How often do we do what Cain did? How often do we come to God on our own terms rather than His terms?
Just look at Christmas and Easter as a examples. Nowhere does God tell us to decorate trees or eggs as an offering to Him; nowhere does God tell us to buy and swap presents with others as an offering to Him; nowhere does God tell us to borrow elements from the heathens to give as an offering to Him.
What does He ask of us? What does God say is an acceptable offering to Him?
“I beseech you therefore, brethren, by the mercies of God, that ye present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable unto God, [which is] your reasonable service.” Romans 12:1
How does God tell us to remember Him and point others to Christ? Is it with nativity scenes, bunnies, hams, tinsel? No.
“After the same manner also [he took] the cup, when he had supped, saying, This cup is the new testament in my blood: this do ye, as oft as ye drink [it], in remembrance of me.
26 For as often as ye eat this bread, and drink this cup, ye do shew the Lord’s death till he come.” 1 Corinthians 11:25, 26
Let us remember that the account is a shadow of Jesus to come. It points to the presentation of Jesus as a living sacrifice which was holy and acceptable to God.
So let us approach God how HE tells us to rather than in our own ‘wisdom’ and logic. Let us not be like Cain, but like Abel, who did as God required.D
***Here is a good read as well. This person goes into much more detail than I about the same thing. It’s a must read whether you celebrate Christmas or not.
The picture on the left says under the Santa: “Keep the MERRY”, and under the Jesus it has “Dump the MYTH.” *I know it isn’t a picture of the real Jesus, but the purpose of this picture is to make my point.
As Christians, the Bible tells us to follow the Truth, and that Truth is Jesus Christ, the One who died to pay the penalty for the world’s sins so we could be reconciled with God.
When we add things like Santa, the Easter Bunny, the Tooth Fairy (any fairies), superheroes etc we are adding fables.
“And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.” 2 Timothy 4:4
“Not giving heed to Jewish fables and commandments of men, that turn from the truth.” Titus 1:14
“For we have not followed cunningly devised fables, when we made known unto you the power and coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, but were eyewitnesses of his majesty.” 2 Peter 1:6
“I have no greater joy than to hear that my children walk in truth.” 3 John 1:4
Looking at the photo above it is clear to see that the world’s Jesus is actually Santa.
I have a comparison below that should highlight to you the brilliant counterfeit that the world has adopted as their own saviour.
I urge you, if you are a professing Christian, and teach your children about Santa as well as Jesus, that you are doing them a disservice.
I have heard people say that it encourages their child’s imagination, but really it’s teaching them fables, which we are warned about in God’s word. There are much better, and actual true accounts in the Bible that will ignite their imaginations much better. Think of the three men in the furnace who didn’t get burnt up, or Daniel in the lion’s den, or David slaying the giant, or the dragons/dinosaurs (I believe there were even fire breathing ones) etc. These stories don’t just fire up the imagination, they are true historical accounts and show God’s glory. What better foundation can children have?
- Has white hair like wool; Rev 1:14
- Has a beard; Isa 50:6
- Comes in red apparel; Isa 63:1,2
- Hour of His coming is a mystery; Luke 12:40, mark 13:33
- Comes from the North where He lives; Eze 1:4, Psalm 48:2
- Is a carpenter; Mark 6:3
- Comes as a thief in the night; Matt 24:43,44
- Is omnipotent – all powerful; Rev 19:6
- Is omniscient – knows all; Heb 4:13, 1 John 3:20
- Is omnipresent – is everywhere; Psalm 139:7-10, Eph 4:6, John 3:13
- Is ageless – eternal; Rev 1:8, 21:6
- Lives in men; 1 Cor 3:16, 2 Cor 6:16,17
- Giver of gifts; Eph 4:8
- Absolute Truth; John 14:6
- Sits on a throne; Rev 5:1, Heb 1:8
- We are told to boldly go to the throne of grace for our needs; Heb 4:16
- Commands children to obey parents; Eph 6:2
- Wants little children to come to Him; Mark 10:14
- Judges people; Rom 14:10, Rev 20:2
- Everlasting Father; Isa 9:6, Heb 12:2
- Christ Child; Matt 1:23, Luke 2:11,12
- Worthy of prayers and worship; Rev 5:14, Heb 1:6
- Lord of Hosts Mal 3:5, Isa 8:13, Psalm 24:10
- God says “Ho, ho …” Zech 2:6
- Has white hair like wool.
- Has a beard.
- Comes in red apparel.
- Hour of his coming is a mystery.
- Comes from the north where he lives – North Pole.
- Is carpenter of toys.
- Comes as a thief in the night. Even gains entrance to homes as a thief.
- Omnipotent – can deliver all the toys of the world in one night.
- Omniscient – knows if you have been bad or good all year.
- Omnipresent – sees when you wake or sleep. Has to be everywhere at once to be able to deliver all the toys in one short night.
- Lives forever.
- Lives in the hearts of children.
- Giver of gifts.
- Absolute fable – 1 Tim 1:4 & 4:7, 2 Tim 4:4.
- Sits on a throne.
- Children are bidden to approach him on his throne to ask for anything they want.
- Commands children to obey their parents.
- Bids children to come unto him.
- Judges whether you were good or bad.
- Father Christmas.
- Kris Kringle – means Christ child.
- Prayers and worship to “St Nick” by children.
- Lord over a host of elves – In Druidic religion, elves are demons or treacherous spirits.
- Santa says “Ho, ho, ho”.
If I were still celebrating Christmas and teaching my children about Santa, this would be very convicting to me.
THIS IS (one of the reasons) WHY THE DOCTRINE A PERSON BELIEVES **DOES** MATTER!!
“They shall put you out of the synagogues: yea, the time cometh, that whosoever killeth you will think that he doeth God service. And these things will they do unto you, because they have not known the Father, nor me.” John 16:2,3
Persecution is going to come from with the “church”.
These people believe they are saved but aren’t truly born again. They do not know God, yet they believe that killing true Christians is doing God a favour. Little do they know that their god is a false god and they will be the ones who end up in hell. 😦
This is one of the reasons I believe we need to make sure of our standing in Christ.
Examine ourselves and see if we be in the faith, for if we have not the doctrine of Christ we do not have God. We may not think we would do this (turn anyone in or kill them), but look at Peter who said he wouldn’t deny Christ!
“Examine yourselves, whether ye be in the faith; prove your own selves. …” 2 Corinthians 13:5
“Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God.
He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son.
If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed:
For he that biddeth him God speed is partaker of his evil deeds.” 2 John 1:9-11
Do you really want to fellowship with just anyone who claims to be a Christian with these warnings, knowing that they could be the very ones who turn you in and or kill you??
I know I don’t, which is why I try to find out a person’s doctrine before I will get too deeply involved in biblical fellowship with them.
This is also why I don’t just blindly follow anyone who claims to be a Christian ‘author, singer, preacher, healer, prophet’ etc etc.
It’s just not worth it.
It really is time to stop being naive and just believing anyone who speaks about Jesus, or God or spiritual matters, because there are false Christs that people have put their faith in, and those Christs will not save them because those false Christs aren’t real and did not live a sinless life in order to pay the penalty for their sins.
It’s time to stop listening to people just because they mention a ‘God’. All religions have a ‘god’, but they aren’t all the God that created the universe and all in it. Those gods didn’t send their only Begotten Son to die for the sins of the world.
New agers speak about spiritual matters all the time, but their spiritual realm is the demonic realm because they channel demons.
I really care that people are blindly following others and not checking their doctrine, because we are quite clearly told that those who do not have the doctrine of Jesus Christ, the only Begotten Son of God have not God. They are not saved. They are speaking of false Christs and false gods.
It really is time to be careful about whom we let into our minds, hearts and homes.
The world will tell you that there is no real gender, that we aren’t born with a definite gender and we can choose what we want to be.
I believe the book/movie The Shack is the bridge that is crossing that agenda over into ‘Christianity’, and undiscerning Christians are going to fall for it and be swayed. It is being done by having people pre-conditioned by the “gender fluid” agenda that has been in the media the last few years and it is being done subtly, just like Satan did with Even in the Garden of Eden.
‘Did God say you will really die if you eat from this tree?’ said Satan then.
‘Is God really a man and not a woman, or both, or neither?’ Satan is saying now.
‘The Shack’ is feminising God and giving Him no gender, or more than one gender, whereas in the Bible God (Father), Jesus (Son) and the Holy Spirit are all masculine titles.
Don’t be fooled, it’s not as innocent as you might think. It is gearing people up to believe on a false Christ, one that will be coming soon and will deceive many, even many seemingly strong Christians.
Please, don’t just brush this off as me being legalistic, it’s got to do with your eternal future. If you are following after, and beli
eving on a false Christ, you will not be saved and you will not spend eternity in heaven with the Real Saviour.
Let us not forget who runs Hollywood/movie studios either. They are not Christians. Do you really expect Hollywood to make truly biblical movies? Of course not, because they are anti-Christ. They promote sin, they sell sin and you are falling for it by giving them your money to watch movies that go directly against all that God stands for.
Would God want you spending the money He so graciously allows you to have on movies that glorify sin and blaspheme Him?
It really is time for us to be taking a stand in these matters and not allowing ourselves to be deceived by the Enemy.
It’s time to remove the blinders, cry out to the Lord and pray and ask for His wisdom and discernment in all things!
t the Lord wants sharpening so that He can use them in a different, better way.
I really just don’t know what to say, and how to say it.
I feel this so strongly right now and I ache for this.
I feel terribly and horribly scared for those people who are following, and even idolising, people like Trump (even going to so far as to label him a kind of saviour of America), the Pope, the myriad false teachers we see on tv and the internet, and hang on every word they say, and promote them as upstanding Christians.
(I have some good friends w
ho are like this and I just am so worried for them, but whenever I try to say anything, I’m pretty much told not to be judgmental, that we can’t judge a person’s heart, we are to just love them. 😦 )
Nothing could be further from the Truth.
Please, it’s time to wake up people and see what’s truly going on. I honestly believe that this is all a lead up to deceiving people to follow the ‘one world religion’. It is being pushed as “unity”, “peace”, (false) “love”, “hope” etc etc.
It’s time to wake up and PRAY AND ASK THE LORD FOR HIS DISCERNMENT!!
Your eternal future is at stake and if you are not ‘in’ the doctrine of Christ, you are in the wrong one and you don’t have God.
“Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son. If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into [your] house, neither bid him God speed: For he that biddeth him God speed is partaker of his evil deeds.” 2 John 1:9-11
By following these unsaved people masquerading as Christians (wolves in sheep’s clothing) you are allowing them into your home, into your temple, which is your spiritual home and you are bidding them God speed. You are partaking in their evil deeds!!
I feel like weeping because of all this deception. So many people are being fooled because they are believing in a false doctrine of false love and unity and peace.
IT’S TIME TO COME OUT OF HER, NOW!!
” And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues. For her sins have reached unto heaven, and God hath remembered her iniquities.” Revelation 18:4,5
Notice it says “MY” people? God is telling HIS people, His children to come out of this godless thing.
COME OUT NOW!